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    donwalk
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    high powered variable scopes

    Post by donwalk on Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:21 pm

    i. like most other airgunners, have a number of 'variable power' rifle scopes. mostly in the 3-9 power range.

    I'm finding, over a period of years, that i am actually getting to where i prefer a FIXED power scope for most practical applications; or, even iron sights. (I now, normally, set the scope to the lowest power and leave it there on most air rifles)

    it's my experience that the variable power scopes, unless you move into the high dollar ones, require more acute adjustments and normally don't give as good of a sight picture/clarity/quality as do the fixed power scopes IN THE SAME PRICE RANGE.

    i DO have high dollar variable scopes i would not part with but they're on my centerfire, intermediate/long range, BA varmint/target rifles and, oddly enough, on some rimfire rifles.

    I'm considering getting a fixed 6, or 10, power for serious airgun hunting WHEN I'm not using iron sights. affraid

    my main train of thought about this is: airgun hunting is like bowhunting...CLOSE IN. the fewer, moving , adjustable parts involved, the better. it's very disconcerting to have to "fool with" making scope adjustments when you're within 35-40 yards of the intended target...at least that's been my experience.

    why not have a fixed power scope that all you need do is adjust the reticle clarity to your visual acuity and go for it? it sure saves on time and movement when stalking... Suspect

    in the final analysis, it's been my experience, that a scope, any scope, simply allows the shooter to SEE the target better, it does NOT insure a hit...it's up to the SHOOTER to "Make the hit".

    now...all that being said...has anyone get any experience with the Leapers fixed 10x50 scope? Rolling Eyes

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    Re: high powered variable scopes

    Post by pcp4me on Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:56 am

    Well, I use variable scopes on most all my airguns. Reason being at longer ranges I can crank em up to see my quarry. Carry em set on 4X and if shot allows and requires I crank up to what ever power is best. Most scopes are 3 X 9 or 4 X 12 - 16X.

    Don't see ANY reason at all for higher powers than than in the hunting field! Not on a rim fire with it's limited range.
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    Re: high powered variable scopes

    Post by Squirrel on Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:20 am

    pcp4me wrote:Well, I use variable scopes on most all my airguns. Reason being at longer ranges I can crank em up to see my quarry. Carry em set on 4X and if shot allows and requires I crank up to what ever power is best. Most scopes are 3 X 9 or 4 X 12 - 16X.

    Don't see ANY reason at all for higher powers than than in the hunting field! Not on a rim fire with it's limited range.
    Yea, but we don't use rimfire anything here. It's all air guns or archery. But point is well made nonetheless.

    Some of these Air Rifles can produce close to rimfire, well, not really, but the concept is the same, I think.

    One thing's for sure, they aren't toys!

    Good case in point though, I walked outside this morning and boom, there they were, diggin up our flowerbeds. I grabed my Infinity and took my shot. But have you ever aimed at a squirrel at better than 30 yards without a scope? Or tried to use 3x power to do the same? Uh, uh, *I* can't do it. I need something that will reach out there and touch something like my Hawke Sidwinder. I got a bead on him and I SWEAR I hit him, but I can't find him now!

    Even turned the dogs lose, they know what they are looking for. He's not on the ground anywhere near here, I can promise you that. The leaves have all come back and they can litterally melt into the trees now. Ugh! Mad


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    Re: high powered variable scopes

    Post by StubExt on Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:43 pm

    I have all Hawke variable high -mag scopes on my PCP airguns and fell in love with the etched glass 1/2 mil dot 20x reticles on the Hawke Sidewinder Tacticals. I have two 6.5-20x42s on my AF guns. They are normally set at 14x and I normally shoot from a rest. My Marauder has a Hawke Varmint SF 6-24 which has a wired 10x 1/2 mil dot reticle which is good but nothing liked the etched glass on the Tacticals. I also own a bunch of high end scopes including a Nightforce NSX which is part of the reasonI like the etched glass floating reticles so much. They are heavy but so is the Nightforce.
    Of course the Hawke Chairgun Pro and Hawke BRC software is great too.


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    Re: high powered variable scopes

    Post by 07condor22 on Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:54 am

    I use a 2-6x20, 3-12x44 and a fixed 10x42. Don't see the need for high power scopes for hunting in my neck of the woods. Higher power mean more shake factor to deal with in off hand shooting. Bench shooting-the higher mag = Tighter groups.

    Weight plays a part also, my EDC is good @ 10x or max 12x and if I can't see the target with my 10x binoculars, it way tooooooooo small for me to shoot.

    I used my SWFA SS10x42 on my condor .22 with good success. Killed Crow @ 100m, measured by parallax ring, several ground hogs and too many starlings to remember. Deadly combo that I'd put up against any vari power scope for off hand hunting.

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    Re: high powered variable scopes

    Post by StubExt on Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:46 pm

    Why you want a Hawke Tactical 20x 1/2 mil dot etched glass reticle on an airgun. An airgun reviewer for AOA named Ted is doing a writeup on the magic of this reticle (only available on the higher mag Hawke Sidewinder Tactical scopes)



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    Re: high powered variable scopes

    Post by 07condor22 on Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:32 am

    StubExt wrote:Why you want a Hawke Tactical 20x 1/2 mil dot etched glass reticle on an airgun. An airgun reviewer for AOA named Ted is doing a writeup on the magic of this reticle (only available on the higher mag Hawke Sidewinder Tactical scopes)


    Can you post a link to this, Sounds like good info?

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    Re: high powered variable scopes

    Post by Abda on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:11 am

    Yes. . . .

    Please do.

    I'm interested as well.


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    Re: high powered variable scopes

    Post by StubExt on Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:26 am

    You probably want to subscribe to Ted's Holdover Youtube Channel on airguns. He has a load of great videos.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/EdgunUSA


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    Re: high powered variable scopes

    Post by Abda on Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:43 am

    StubExt wrote:You probably want to subscribe to Ted's Holdover Youtube Channel on airguns. He has a load of great videos.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/EdgunUSA

    I checked out the site and I'm happy to have gone there.

    On the first page is the following.