My buddy has a machine shop in his basement and I have slowly learned a few things. I decided a wider brass shoe was needed. It took me about 4 hours including deburring and finish. The breech knob project is next!
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Home Made Trigger Shoe for Stubby Extreme
StubExt- Field Ranger
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Join date : 2011-07-01
ORairgunner- Admin
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Join date : 2011-06-03
Neat project, it will always feed good on your trigger finger because you made it yourself. Looks great.
Tom
Abda- Admin
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Join date : 2011-04-20
Screw the shoe, I want the equipment he used to make it!
Wow. Seriously. If I had the stuff to do that with!
But I never thought about doing that or having it made for me. You do this for others? Ever think about it if you don't? How much would a custom job like that cost for someone interested in you making one for them?
Can you give us a spiel on why this is a good thing? I mean, I can TOTALLY get it.
The only thing I think that you could have done to make it any better is to have it contoured to your finger with rounded edges. Like, if you were right handed, the contour would reflect that in a more contoured right side for the pull of the finger---better feel, I would imagine.
I place a LOT of emphases on how a trigger feels and I almost always adjust my pull to the lightest I can get it without it not catching---couple of mine, if you go to far with that it won't even fire off a round so you have to find that happy medium of hair trigger feeling.
Most of my triggers have been stone ground and polished by Will Piatt. SMOOTH action when pulling the trigger and I can get it adjusted to the lightest setting without loosing the functionality of the action and what it is supposed to do.
I'm very experienced in being able to pull my trigger without jerking it or flinching when I do because of my early training in hunting with my Dad and then the Army but still, I find that, like on the Walther Falcon I have, the triggering being stiffer than I'd want, I end up with a little over reaction when I pull the trigger and we all know that there is already enough dynamics going on in a Nitro piston double repercussion to already make things a little more than what we would all like to feel in a good trigger pull. My Walther does have a trigger kit from PA when I got it but still, it's not as good as I'd like it.
And, if I had a contoured shoe like that I think I'd be able to feel the pull a lot better. More of a tactile response in the tip of my finger already made numb and work hardened from years of abuse and hard work.
I really like that, Stub. Give us some more on it, would you?
Wow. Seriously. If I had the stuff to do that with!
But I never thought about doing that or having it made for me. You do this for others? Ever think about it if you don't? How much would a custom job like that cost for someone interested in you making one for them?
Can you give us a spiel on why this is a good thing? I mean, I can TOTALLY get it.
The only thing I think that you could have done to make it any better is to have it contoured to your finger with rounded edges. Like, if you were right handed, the contour would reflect that in a more contoured right side for the pull of the finger---better feel, I would imagine.
I place a LOT of emphases on how a trigger feels and I almost always adjust my pull to the lightest I can get it without it not catching---couple of mine, if you go to far with that it won't even fire off a round so you have to find that happy medium of hair trigger feeling.
Most of my triggers have been stone ground and polished by Will Piatt. SMOOTH action when pulling the trigger and I can get it adjusted to the lightest setting without loosing the functionality of the action and what it is supposed to do.
I'm very experienced in being able to pull my trigger without jerking it or flinching when I do because of my early training in hunting with my Dad and then the Army but still, I find that, like on the Walther Falcon I have, the triggering being stiffer than I'd want, I end up with a little over reaction when I pull the trigger and we all know that there is already enough dynamics going on in a Nitro piston double repercussion to already make things a little more than what we would all like to feel in a good trigger pull. My Walther does have a trigger kit from PA when I got it but still, it's not as good as I'd like it.
And, if I had a contoured shoe like that I think I'd be able to feel the pull a lot better. More of a tactile response in the tip of my finger already made numb and work hardened from years of abuse and hard work.
I really like that, Stub. Give us some more on it, would you?
Johnny- Ranger
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Join date : 2011-06-28
That is some beautifull work that you did there and it makes it stand out.....the stock is just out of this world
StubExt- Field Ranger
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Join date : 2011-07-01
I am just learning to do the machining from a good friend and don't have enough time hardly to do it for myself on a rare occasion. I thought the trigger might take 2 hours instead of the 4 it actually took.
Besides looking cool the new trigger is larger and I made it a lot wider than the standard unadjustable some other site trigger which needed some help. It makes the trigger easier to pull smoothly. I have seen warnings about not messing with the AF trigger internals too much like polishing, etc. although I know some do it.
The Stubby Extreme is a real piece of work creation and I think and the Maddog stocks makes the AF guns basically into different guns. It has changed the ergonomics and makes it a real pleasure to shoot.
I switch the tank/valve assemblies between Stubby (since both power units are based from the Condor) and my Condor much of the time and shoot the heavy slugs with the Extreme valve out of the Condor (100 fpe) with the longer barrel for as much velocity as possible. Stubby with the Hi-Flo valve adjusts up to more than capable for squirrels, opossums, and chipmunks (about 34 fpe w/ JSBs or Predators). I have Hawke Sidewinder Tactical 6.5-20x scopes on both.
I use a CTK gun vise bungie'd in to check accuracy and there is no noticable difference between both guns despite the barrel length difference once the shooter is out of the picture. Both are very accurate in .25 cal with JSB Kings which is the most accurate pellet out of the 9 I have tested so far. Predators are close enough for hunting.
I like the very compact size and accuracy and power of Stubby and think it is pretty well the cat's meow. It is my go to backyard airgun for everything but shooting the heavy slugs out of the Condor and my Marauder .25 hangs on the wall.
I highly recommend Stubby as an excellent all around airgun.
Besides looking cool the new trigger is larger and I made it a lot wider than the standard unadjustable some other site trigger which needed some help. It makes the trigger easier to pull smoothly. I have seen warnings about not messing with the AF trigger internals too much like polishing, etc. although I know some do it.
The Stubby Extreme is a real piece of work creation and I think and the Maddog stocks makes the AF guns basically into different guns. It has changed the ergonomics and makes it a real pleasure to shoot.
I switch the tank/valve assemblies between Stubby (since both power units are based from the Condor) and my Condor much of the time and shoot the heavy slugs with the Extreme valve out of the Condor (100 fpe) with the longer barrel for as much velocity as possible. Stubby with the Hi-Flo valve adjusts up to more than capable for squirrels, opossums, and chipmunks (about 34 fpe w/ JSBs or Predators). I have Hawke Sidewinder Tactical 6.5-20x scopes on both.
I use a CTK gun vise bungie'd in to check accuracy and there is no noticable difference between both guns despite the barrel length difference once the shooter is out of the picture. Both are very accurate in .25 cal with JSB Kings which is the most accurate pellet out of the 9 I have tested so far. Predators are close enough for hunting.
I like the very compact size and accuracy and power of Stubby and think it is pretty well the cat's meow. It is my go to backyard airgun for everything but shooting the heavy slugs out of the Condor and my Marauder .25 hangs on the wall.
I highly recommend Stubby as an excellent all around airgun.
StubExt- Field Ranger
- Posts : 130
Join date : 2011-07-01
I forgot to add my buddy has an old but high end Milwaukee milling amongst his tools. He used to make small hobby engines on his equipment. He has more stock metal of different kinds than anyone I have ever seen. His metal lathe is a South Bend. Real nice stuff. I think most of the cost though is in the hundreds of cutting bits, dies, and accessories, etc. he has collected over the years. Many though he has made.
Abda- Admin
- Posts : 471
Join date : 2011-04-20
I need friends like that. Got any you'd loan me?
I'd be putting them through their paces!
But seriously, you've got some great access. I'd be letting my creative juices flow and getting into more than triggers shoes. Seems like you have some latent talent there buried that needs to come up for some air!
I'd be putting them through their paces!
But seriously, you've got some great access. I'd be letting my creative juices flow and getting into more than triggers shoes. Seems like you have some latent talent there buried that needs to come up for some air!
07condor22- Ranger
- Posts : 43
Join date : 2011-06-28
That's a good custom trigger shoe. I think a trigger shoe is a required mod on my rifles, makes the trigger pulled weight less, without having made any adjustments to pull weight of yo trigger.
I do prefer non-metal shoes, keeps trigger finger from freezin during cold weather hunting.
Sam
I do prefer non-metal shoes, keeps trigger finger from freezin during cold weather hunting.
Sam